What type of user are you? 😃

[Sinacs]

@AnyChris

IMHO it depends on your use case because tracking is better with sets & relations and note taking is better with notes & pages.

I’ve have no choice, always table first!

@AnyChris

This is a very figurative use of language. I totally agree with you. I like the aesthetics of AnyType.
But until there is an easy way to self-host, I will continue to use Logseq because of its approach that puts privacy first, even though I don’t like its look and structure.

I’m not a tech pro, should I care about privacy problem in AT? It seems security enough even it’s not self-hosting.

@AnyChris

I will continue to use Logseq because of its approach that puts privacy first even though I don’t like its look and structure.

OK! I help you highlighting the only reason you mention about to continue using Logseq. Interesting!

@AnyChris

But one could argue, that you can create your own personal wiki or create a project/task management system, without the other.

Yes, it depends on the final purpose of using AT, everyone will finally be becoming a BOTH type user when people are using AT as an all-in-one app,

@AnyChris

OKRs & OGSM I had to look up those abbreviations & learnt some things.

Glad you feel interest in it! And yes, they are worth to have a look while they are both the top project tracking skills in the market.

@AnyChris

Did you know that you can open multiple windows in AnyType? So a big screen would be preferable in this case. Unfortunately Split Screen or Tabs (looking at two pages in parallel) isn’t possible yet. Otherwise you can create a table of content to easier find your specific content on a page.

Thank for the tips! I didn’t try it before, I will give it a try later!

@AnyChris

You don’t long for them alone.

[Sinacs]

@Kerstie

I don’t think so. I’m all three. I want everything looking tidy in my ‘folders’ and in my Graph. I sort based on topics, not on whether it’s a group of notes or a group of tables, so yeah, a good mix of both.

Sounds like you are already bet it all on AT!

@Kerstie

I think people coming from Notion are used to combining these two already. Before that, I was using Airtable for my databases and while it’s a good platform for its purpose, there’s just no going back once you’ve learned you can combine it with regular pages and have total control over your layout.

Yes, I totally agree! I have similar experience.

@Kerstie

Graph is very useful if you’re into building connections and prefer it having a visual representation. For example, I like building graphs of all kinds of things — from my family tree to the relationships of the many fandoms that I’m following. Links like that are not as satisfactory to look at in a note or table view.

Ok, the word Fandoms is completely shoot me down, I never have this kind of experience. But I can imagine that once I working on this topic, I will say the same thing “Links like that are not as satisfactory to look at in a note or table view.”

@Kerstie

I agree on Calendar being a valuable feature. Just imagine all the ways you can organize your objects once we have that here.

It’s exciting!

[jeffwllms]

Yeah, I agree that I find other things I like in AT over logseq. It’s the main reason I have been playing with it.

I have been trying to play around with sets. I feel like I am close but just not there yet.

I think it is just trying to think a bit differently.

[Jeroen]

@Sinacs

I often wonder if the graph view is one of the most useless and resource-consuming features in the programming world. However, it seems to have a place in the market trends because it looks cool enough. To be honest, I think the calendar is a much more valuable feature than the graph view. But this is just my personal opinion and maybe I’m wrong.

I have no idea how resource intensive a graph view is and I don’t use the graph view a lot but I would not say it is useless. Specially local graph view, that on I use a lot in Obsidian and I find it very useful. At a quick glance you can see all connections to the current note.

Anytypes Graph view needs a lot of improvement to be honest.

And yes, calendar is a bigger and better feature to have compared to graph view. I think hardly anybody would disagree on that.

[Sinacs]

Yes, I think you are almost there. I have the same feeling as you when I played around with the sets. I feel like I have found many possible ways to make my use case become better, but it is not working well as I expected because of some limitations in the workflow. However, those limitations are not something big, they just make me feel that AT is not intelligent enough yet, and I can imagine that all those problems will be solved in the future.

[Sinacs]

@Jeroen

Specially local graph view, that on I use a lot in Obsidian and I find it very useful. At a quick glance you can see all connections to the current note.

Ok, I’m sorry I did not use the graph on all the note-taking apps, but I have understood your point. However, it sounds like the local graph is more helpful than the general graph view overall. In my mind, the general graph view always includes over 80% of nodes, which I don’t need to see, and it means it is wasting the space of the screen.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I think I should give a vote for the local graph now

[C.c]

Benefits of graph

• Good for observing for observing pattern ← would be enhanced by zoom further
• It resembles how human brains work neurologically - that’s the closest form of note taking you can have for your cognitive process (unless we are talking about other forms of representation)
• Loose nodes are good for forming new connections. Can you imagine seeing a link between D12 and H8?
• In intensive information processing, graph only shows connection that make sense; but if we use table, we will have to layout all irrelevant possibilities, causing almost like infinite matrix which is impossible to write down. See a long discussion of the usage between table and graph for FR multi-dimensional relation.
• Graph allows formation of different structures, e.g. tree hierarchy for linguistics
• The possibilities of explaining the linkage e.g. weight or connection force and relation name.

Actually, I am not a fan of graph view but relation. Graphs lay out the relations quite well.

My graph looks messy because it contains 2500+ items and every object has at least 3 relations to other object. It is also a concept and content based graph. To me, every input source is a MOC of its own (if I have to state bluntly) - because even one YouTube video contains the specific combination of understanding ideas in a specific sequence of presentation. I seriously need local graph view to see it properly.

It might seem weird at first glance, but table and calendar are also graphs that represent objects in fixed vertical and horizontal distributions which the relation forces are equal between each object.

[Sinacs]

@C.c

because even one YouTube video contains the specific combination of understanding ideas in a specific sequence of presentation. I seriously need local graph view to see it properly.

If I were you, I would definitely create multiple sets as a single video project overview in one page, and then turn all of the dynamic content into relations value, finally managing and tracking everything in the overview page.

That made me not quite need a Graph view, but thank you for you and Jeroen mentioned about the Local Graph, I can see a local graph can be much more helpful than the big one.

Thanks for the informative reply!

[Sinacs]

@AnyChris

Regarding your categorisation of people who use certain note taking apps or features of an app, there is an intriguing YouTube video playlist by Tiago Forte on this topic:
Pick Your Digital Notes App: Step-by-Step Walkthrough

There’s also a blog post about this if you’re interested:
The 4 Notetaking Styles: How to Choose a Digital Notes App as Your Second Brain

I found this division relatively good. It also gives a bit of a guide to all the notes apps that have been, are, and will be available.

Thanks for sharing the videos! I found that I’m not one of those four. Maybe that’s the reason of what made me finally come to AT, and why I can’t stay comfortable too long for those apps that he mentioned.

[AnyChris]

@Sinacs

Thanks for sharing the videos! I found that I’m not one of those four. Maybe that’s the reason of what made me finally come to AT, and why I can’t stay comfortable too long for those apps that he mentioned.

Interesting! Could you please elaborate on this a bit more? Because I think AT is designed somewhat like Notion and therefor for the Architect Notetaking Style.