Ah ok, I thought “cut off” was meant as deliver them lol. I am biased sorry @HAN ![]()
Good to see progress in a relatively short time-frame. When I first migrated, at the beginning of October I think, I had to go back to Obsidian and look for another solution. About two months later, I’m quite happy with AnyType as the major issues have been fixed. Missing features are still missing features but, after the chats have been implemented, I expect some progress in that area, as well. Especially with the Editor 2.0. None of them are make-or-break, though.
Although there are no more “features that could make me leave AnyType”, two that would make life much better are
- tabs, and
- collapsing sections / headers
Both of these are relatively simple (and in progress! as far as I know).
I did not commit blindly to AnyType. I deemed it feature-complete enough for my use-cases.
This bug ( Bad indexing of pages since the update ) is a deal-breaker for me. That was more than four months ago. Constant bugs and regression, QA is pretty bad.
I know the team is working hard. But I probably will look elsewhere in 2026. I hear Logseq has sync & collaboration on its way, that might just work.
there are many solutions out there, maybe hundreds even. Logseq is pretty different though.
they said in the town hall that they are aware of the search issues and are working on it. when it comes to anytype, patience is key. it still has and will have rough edges 2 years from now.
just use what works for you
Four. Months.
I can deal with frustration and minor bugs.
But this… I mean, how can you think I will pay for this…
As the team is aware of this issue and they use other libraries for indexing, it might be a prioritizing issue.
It’s a chicken / egg problem, they need subs to be sustainable, they don’t get it because of such bugs and that the product doesn’t feel mature. Yet they feel the need to innovate with new features and chats to find a niche and get the subs, while other features that also need work lay flat (that again keeps existing users from subscribing).
It is a vicious circle.
also be aware that they struggled a bit this year and team members had to leave.
Have you compared that to the pace of development of Logseq, for example? I, personally, haven’t noticed any changes in the last five years, probably.
So, if
works for you then go for it, by all means.
I think it’s often funny when people articulate the need to switch to something else in a threatening way (no one cares) and mention a product that is so different that it is hard to compare at all, too.
Do what you must, be productive and live life ![]()
Subject: Why I left Anytype for Notion: Efficiency over Data Sovereignty
I have stopped using Anytype, though I occasionally come back to check on its progress. My decision to leave wasn’t due to missing features; the lack of a few specific functions isn’t a dealbreaker for me.
The real dealbreaker is that, compared to Notion, Anytype significantly reduces my team’s productivity. Consequently, I had to make a compromise on data sovereignty.
Why does Anytype lower team efficiency?
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The entry barrier is too high. To use it proficiently, one must grasp complex concepts like [Types, Objects, Relations].
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It lacks stability. There are too many bugs. It hasn’t reached the stability expected of a commercial-grade application. Frequent bugs severely disrupt the creative process.
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Features feel unrefined. When comparing identical features in Notion, you realize Notion is much more polished, resulting in a far superior user experience.
It’s like writing an article: the majority of your time should be spent on creation, not formatting. New features don’t appeal to me. However, if Anytype’s core functionalities become as usable and polished as Notion’s, I will return.
Suggestions for the team:
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Rethink the [Types, Objects, Relations] concepts. I particularly dislike “Relations.” Why is a Relation I add visible across the entire Space? Perhaps I’m using it wrong, but as a software engineer, I still haven’t figured it out—doesn’t that prove it’s overly complex?
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Prioritize UX optimization over new features. Even if you lack trendy features, I would still choose Anytype if the basics were as stable and easy to use as Notion. Currently, you have many features, but few are stable or user-friendly, which forces me to leave.
@idler
“Efficiency over Data Sovereignty” - I think if data security/sovereignty is important to you, Anytype is definitely one of the best options available. If it’s not important to you, then the title is meaningless, because then the question doesn’t even arise and you can use any tool you like.
I’m wondering which version of Anytype you’re familiar with, since you mention “relations.” These were renamed “properties” some time ago (April 2025, as far as I remember). Many improvements have been made since then. Development is progressing quite rapidly. Many bugs have been fixed, and bugs are being fixed literally every single day. You might want to try the latest version of Anytype.
What surprises me is that, as a “software developer,” you are seriously suggesting that the team should rethink its basic concept?
It is hard to not agree with both terms and both go hand in hand.
This is the dilemma Anytype has to deal with since the beginning. Innovate and leave bugs and unfinished functionality behind or making the core functionality that is there more robust while not being able to innovate that much.
The later also needs a strategy for the long run and as Anytype changed courses with concepts not only once shows that they have to adjust the course from time to time and this rises the need to stay flexible.
Then we are at the point where we are now again, being able to innovate fast while other features and bugs fall behind.
This I don’t get though. This is the core concept of Anytype that makes it useful for me.
I can connect everything to everything, create a database through types and relations.
If this is not of use for you then indeed I think Anytype is just not the right product in general for you.
There is still a long way to go. The editor for example. I also think it is very tedious to work with it. People who work with it every day get used to it. But I took a pause of using Anytype for nearly one year and came back to it recently. And the editor is not a joy to use.
Backspace sometimes not working, selecting things is sometimes a mess, collaboration is buggy and overwrites things of the others when editing the same object, keyboard navigation for various things like inputting properties is non existent (tabbing), not being able to set a format like bold before I start to write… - I don’t want to list everything because the detail and the refinements matter. The overall experience is not very pleasant when I would compare it to others overall.
And things add up. When then also the search functionality is not working properly and you don’t find things as you would expect the game is over for many people.
But overall I think @idler 's problem is the concept of Anytype and that it is not useful for them.
If the concept of Anytype is useful for someone those positive aspects can outweigh the negative ones. As they said in the town hall, if it clicks for someone, the usage increases steadily.
What are you comparing Anytype’s editor to, Notion’s or which other one exactly? Regarding Notion, I don’t see any fundamental difference for everyday work (apart from more features, which is understandable for software that is four years older than Anytype).
I actually like Anytype’s editor very much, I don’t find it tedious to work with.
I mainly used Obsidian during my off time of Anytype and think it’s a joy to use in comparison (esp. regarding the points mentioned above and the keyboard centric usability). I also liked the feel of Affine’s editor, especially when it comes to collaboration and stability in this regard.
Like I said, people who work with it every day don’t see the weirdness of some things anymore and get used to it. That’s normal and I don’t want to discredit anyone. Like when I still would use a 10 year old Intel Mac I would still enjoy to use it if I’m used to it and if I wouldn’t have worked with an Apple Silicon one the last year. When you would come back to the 10 year old Intel Mac you would also feel the pain.
There is very much a reason why they want to rewrite the entire editor next year.
So true.
I like Anytype, but it’s a pain to initiate someone new into it.
I showed it to some people, but they gave up early.
If someone tries the editor he thinks that one can not do even simple basic stuff with it.
For example: no one comes up intuitively with the idea, to press “/”.
Everyone would expect that functionality if he presses the right mouse key. But pressing the right mouse key does simply nothing.
And then all these invisible UI elements, like the “+” button left from the gripper for Blocks.
If one doesn’t know that this button appears there when you move the mouse to that position, it will need too much time til her finally finds it by chance.
Two years ago, it has cost me three days to understand the editor alone.
And to be honest, I still struggle with the “new” concept for Templates and Objects.
I must always think and try a lot if I want to change the appearance of Objects/Templeates.
Or I remember how often in past I was frustrated about the filters in Views.
It’s still way too cumbersome to configure the filters.
Especially: I one doesn’t know that you first need to add a Property to the Grid before you find that Property in the available filter options, then it’s far away from being usable intuitively.
I can’t paste images into simple table cells. I really need to do this.
Really? The plus sign indicator, the corresponding line, and the context menu that follows are not self-explanatory enough for someone trying out a personal knowledge system?
It will take the user two or maybe three seconds to learn that when he moves the mouse over a block (for example, a paragraph), a bar appears on the left that is obviously there for a reason. And that when he moves the mouse over this bar, a context menu appears with all available options. These 3 seconds are well invested, because the user will never have to learn this again.
And exactly the same happens on right click, the same context menu appears.
Is that one of the huge problems with the Anytype editor that is being discussed here?
no. this is a subjective thing for them. don’t generalize their raging answer with many issues the editor has overall.
should I really list all the issues the editor has (in my opinion and with referencing all the forum posts)?
If it works for you then all is fine. But for many users the editor does not have the best UX, many quirks and oddities.
Yes, I think that would be very helpful whether here or as a separate post, as a summary of all complaints concerning Anytype’s editor. And I personally would be very interested in hearing your arguments. Coming from Notion, Coda and FuseBase, I’m used to block-based editors and find Anytype’s editor pretty good in its current state. Since this thread is about why you should leave Anytype, I really wonder why Anytype’s editor, of all things, should be an argument for doing so.
The problem is, as I already wrote, that the plus sign is normally invisible. And it shows up only when the mouse is very close to its position.
The gripper right from it appears earlier. That could lead the user to move the mouse there. Normally.
But the problem with this is another: The contrast of the gripper is so low, that it is nearly invisible for me.
I complained a lot about too low contrast that some things have in Anytype, but the devs did never do somehing against it.
My most “beloved” example are the connection lines in the Graph. I can only see them if I change the monitor setting so extreme that it hurts my eye. In my normal settings they are as good as invisible for me.
WAY TOO LOW CONTRAST!
And you wouldn’t believe how long I needed to find out that the Gripper in the editor is not only just a gripper but has a second function when you simply do a mouse click on it – I found it out after one year of daily usage!
Can’t remember if I found it by pure chance, or if I’ve seen that in a video. But I remember well how astonished I was that I’ve never knew about it, although I use Anytype every day (and that a lot)!
I suggested to the team to make much more out of the tooltips.
Tooltips are very good to explain newcomers the UI elements.
Two years ago there was only a few tooltips, most was missing. I reported that repeatedly; even yesterday I reported five still completely missing tooltips.
But the texts in the tooltips should be much longer to explain things good.
In my own Software that I wrote I implemented another approach: In addition to short tooltips, the program blends in a two lines in the bottom of the screen that show much more detailed explanations.
The user can switch that out, but if he need it, he can reactivate it easily.
My own philosophy when I write software is always, that a good software doesn’t need a manual.
It is self explaining.
But for Anytype, I would maybe never have understood what’s going on, without consuming a lot videos and a lot research in this forum.
And it was real frust, because the official videos at that time (these from Charlotte) was nothing else then trash. Impossible to follow them.
Anytype was hyped in some videos on other channels on YouTube, that’s why I gave it again and again and again a chance until I finally “got it”.
Without these videos I would have deinstalled it after one or two hours.
And I can’t blame any newcomer who still struggles to come to that point where he can use it, although many things has become better since then.
I’ve shown it to some people over the time, but non of them stayed. They all gave up early.
you just want to keep me busy and procrastinating all day until xmas, admit it ![]()
I’m not sure if I can take your response seriously tbh
there you go:
https://community.anytype.io/tag/Editor-or-Blocks